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Empyema with Dr. Aaron Garrison

With CCHMC Pediatric Surgery · hosted by Dr. Todd Ponsky
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Community acquired pneumonia is the leading cause of hospitalization in the US and the leading cause of death in children less than five years old worldwide.
Epidemiological
Only 15% of children with pneumonia will have a bacterial pathogen detected.
Epidemiological
The most common bacterial pathogens causing pneumonia include Staphylococcus aureus, Strep pneumo, and Haemophilus influenzae.
Clinical
Simple parapneumonic effusion means fluid is present; complicated means it needs an intervention such as chest tube or thoracentesis.
Clinical
Empyema refers to purulence or pus in the pleural space.
Clinical
The exudative phase of empyema occurs in the first 2-3 days, when fluid is sterile and not infected.
Clinical
The fibrinopurulent stage occurs between 2 days and 2 weeks and is the stage typically seen in the operating room.
Clinical
In the fibrinopurulent stage, cells get into the pleural space and make clot, fibrin, and a purulent thick environment.
Clinical
The real problem with empyema is compromised lung volumes once the collection organizes, with a thick rind causing lung entrapment that won't expand.
Clinical
Staphylococcus aureus is the most likely cause of pneumatoceles.
Clinical
Kids on oscillators and high ventilatory pressures are more likely to generate pneumatoceles.
Clinical
A lot of pneumatoceles will go away on their own and you don't need to intervene unless they're causing shift or get super infected.
Clinical
Ultrasound is more sensitive than CT scan to pick up septations in the pleural space.
Clinical
Ultrasound does not have radiation exposure compared to CT.
Clinical
The American College of Chest Physicians classification looks at effusion size on x-ray, whether bacteria are grown on thoracentesis, pleural fluid chemistry, and categorizes risk to determine if drainage is recommended.
Guideline
The rate of primary VATS are going down and the rate of chest tubes and TPA are going up.
Epidemiological
The rate of patients that fail chest tubes with TPA that then require a VATS is about 5%.
Epidemiological
At Cincinnati Children's, the protocol is six doses of TPA, 12 hours apart, and they don't use DNAase.
Clinical
For patients with clear effusion who are sick, if you put in a drainage tube without TPA and they're not getting sick in the next 24 hours, you don't give TPA and just watch them.
Clinical
If patients don't clinically improve in 24 hours after chest tube placement, proceed with the TPA protocol.
Clinical
The two main contraindications to TPA are necrotizing pneumonia and bronchopleural fistulas.
Clinical
Significant parenchymal disease and chronic changes are relative contraindications to TPA.
Clinical
For young kids ages 1-3 with recurrent infections and chronic pneumonia, consider the chance of an airway foreign body.
Clinical
The most common airway foreign body culprit is peanuts.
Clinical
Peanuts can't be seen on chest x-ray.
Clinical
Initial imaging for airway foreign body can look like air trapping, but finding the foreign body on x-ray is rare and a normal chest x-ray can't rule out foreign body aspiration.
Clinical
Dr. Ponsky's study showed CT scan has 100% reliability to show an airway foreign body, with 100% sensitivity and both positive and negative predictive value.
ClinicalTodd Ponsky
For otherwise healthy kids with a pulmonary abscess, they don't need surgical treatment at all.
Clinical
Pulmonary abscesses almost always respond to just antibiotics and don't need drainage.
Clinical
Drainage of pulmonary abscesses can lead to bronchopleural fistula and persistent air leak.
Clinical
Bronchopleural fistulas sometimes close on their own, but other times may require advanced intervention such as a broncho valve or seal.
Clinical
Dr. St. Peter's study showed that chest tube with fibrinolytics such as TPA are not inferior to standard VATS when looking at clinical outcomes.
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Dr. St. Peter's study found no difference in hospital admissions, decreased cost with chest tube, and overall kids get less sick when not doing a VATS on them.
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Dr. St. Peter's published protocol was three days of TPA, 24 hours apart.
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A study in kids showed that DNAase didn't make much difference.
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In Dr. Ponsky's study, only about 40% of patients who had bronchoscopy for an inhaled foreign body actually had one present, and the majority of the other 60% had reactive airway disease.
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CT imaging can be used to diagnose inhaled foreign body before taking children to the operating room, saving OR time, sedation, and cost for a large proportion of children despite minimal radiation exposure.
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